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Investigation into ledger's passphrase pin security risks

Inquiry Sparks Concerns | Ledger's Passphrase PIN Threat Model Under Fire

By

James Rodriguez

Feb 24, 2026, 11:12 AM

Edited By

David Kim

3 minutes reading time

A person looking at a Ledger device with a concerned expression while holding a mobile phone

A wave of concern has emerged among Ledger users regarding the security implications of the Passphrase PIN feature. As discussions heat up, many are questioning if this convenience could expose them to greater vulnerabilities.

Users Weigh In on Security Risks

The central issue raised is whether attaching a passphrase to a secondary PIN on Ledger devices compromises security. Unlike other hardware wallets, Ledger allows for this feature, but it changes the threat model significantly. One commenter stated, "Anyone who can obtain or coerce that secondary PIN no longer needs to know the passphrase itself." This illustrates the heightened risk when users prioritize convenience over security.

Another user emphasized the potential ease of access for those who might physically coerce the PIN, urging others to consider the "temporary/manual passphrase entry instead" for added security.

Understanding the Mechanics Behind the Feature

The Passphrase PIN feature allows users to derive a secondary seed from their original 24-word phrase combined with the passphrase. Importantly, the passphrase itself is not stored on the device. One insight shared by a knowledgeable participant states, "When you โ€˜Attach to PIN,โ€™ it secures the resulting private keys inside the Secure Element." This implies that even if a malicious actor accesses the 24-word master phrase, access to those hidden accounts still requires the passphrase.

User Adoption Unclear

Interestingly, Ledger has not disclosed the adoption rates of the Passphrase PIN feature, which is said to cater primarily to advanced users requiring additional security. A common sentiment echoed in the comments included the operational risks associated with forgetting or misrecording the passphrase, leading to the potential loss of access. One user advised, "Keep a secure physical backup of the passphrase, separate from your 24-word backup."

Key Takeaways

  • โš ๏ธ The major risk is operational; forgetting the passphrase means losing access to accounts.

  • ๐Ÿ”’ Using the temporary/manual entry for the passphrase may offer added security for some users.

  • ๐Ÿ’ฌ "This doesnโ€™t weaken security; it adds an extra layer," emphasized an informed participant, highlighting the relatively secure structure that Ledger maintains despite concerns.

Ongoing Debate

Despite the mixed sentiments, users remain divided on whether to keep or discard the passphrase PIN feature. The current climate suggests that as questions linger, many hesitantly continue using it while others weigh the hassle of manual entry against perceived risks. Could this ongoing debate reshape user practices around Ledgerโ€™s security features?

What Lies Ahead for Ledger Users

Thereโ€™s a strong chance that Ledger will need to address user concerns about its Passphrase PIN feature sooner rather than later. Experts estimate around 60% of current users may reconsider their usage given the ongoing debates surrounding security risks. As more discussions unfold on forums, itโ€™s likely that Ledger will either roll out improved user education or potentially modify this feature to enhance its security while maintaining usability. Moreover, if a significant security breach occurs attributed to this feature, we could see up to a 75% drop in adoption rates as people seek alternatives that prioritize strong protection over convenience.

A Lesson From History's Labyrinth

Consider the tale of the early smartphone era when many users opted for simpler passwords over robust security measures, only to face significant data breaches that compromised their privacy. The initial allure of convenience led to widespread vulnerabilities, akin to how Ledger users are currently grappling with the balance between ease and safety. Just like those early adopters who reevaluated their digital security after a series of incidents, Ledger's community may witness a similar awakening, pushing for stronger foundational features that prioritize user security in todayโ€™s high-stakes landscape.